and corporations down so far before you need to see real revenues. when you drive and fly around the country, go to new york, go to cleveland, go to chicago, the streets are businessies, the restaurants are busy, the airlines are packed. to me, i'm sorry, i don't see a determined, ill economy out there. i see a really strong economy. >> if i can jump in to say to dennis's point, people have been talking about you can only cut your way to prosperity. i was saying it in 2010. it's been several years now. companies have managed what we'll call a terrible environment for several years and the stock markets has gone higher. even if larry is right and growth disappoints in the second half of the year. even if growth disappoints in the second half the year, there's nothing to say the last three years can't be repeated again, that is to say higher stock prices. >> if we continue to see slow growth, we're going to continue to see our debt rise and that is a huge problem. >> no, that's not a problem.